Kanye West‘s pastor Adam Tyson has spoken out about his disciple’s recent shift to gospel music, revealing on the Pure Flix podcast that West believes himself to have been “radically saved.”

“He started meeting with me in my office,” Tyson says, explaining how their relationship began. “And I spent about three hours just going through the gospel, make sure he understood clearly about the atonement of Jesus Christ. And he’s like, ‘Hey, man, I told you I’ve been radically saved. I believe that message, and I want to get that message out to the world.’”

It would seem that Tyson is somewhat of a mentor for West’s shift away from secular music, stating that the musician looks for him for religious guidance in his lyrics and saying that they were “hanging out in the studio, working on the Jesus Is King album.”

“It’s not like I’m writing the song. It’s all of his work. He’s the complete creator, creative kind of guy. He’s the musician,” Tyson explains. “I’m just making comments the way I see it [on] how to articulate the gospel more clearly, and how to include the component of worship, which that was his idea.”

Tyson continues, stating that West had told him, “I was just under the weight of my sin. And I was being convicted that I was running from God. And I knew I needed to make things right. So, I came to Christ. I came out of darkness into the light.”

Elsewhere, Tyson says that West has banned people from swearing when they’re with him. “If somebody cusses in his presence, I’ve heard him say a couple of times, ‘Hey, man, you can’t cuss when you’re with me. I’m a born-again Christian.’ Who’s gonna say that if they’re not meaning that they want Christ to be exalted in all that they do?”

Listen to the episode in full below.

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